The Oceans team were keen to talk about veganism in the light of recent postings from Captain Watson, which drew a response from law professor, Gary Francione.
I defended the justice-for-all philosophy of veganism and explained how sociologists tend to look at social movements and social movement participation.
Here are the two links for the full programmes - and below, my clips from each show extracted out.
State of the Oceans, October 14th.
State of the Oceans, October 21st.