Both Declan and Harold were born into the animal farming community and now they are prominent vegan activists in their respective countries.
I asked them about whether they still have any contact within the animal farming industries, the important issue of farming subsidies comes up, and Declan and Harold have interesting perspectives on the Covid-19 outbreaks in slaughterhouses and "meat" packing plants.
Declan runs VEGO and Back Into Daylight vegan animal sanctuary and Harold runs the FarmKind organisation.