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VIDEO: The Animal Rights Show with Jeremy & Roger (Pilot Show)

3/25/2020

In this first ever Animal Rights with Jeremy and Roger Show, we explore the corona pandemic through the lens of animal advocacy.

Topics include:

• 1:36 Is self-isolating similar to living vegan?

• 4:31 How we can help the vulnerable and evolve our animal advocacy through corona

• 9:06 What to expect from the Animal Rights Show

• 11:26 Should vegans talk about the connection between corona and animal use?

• 13:11 Link to Jake Conroy's (Cranky Vegan's) video that was mentioned: 3MT: Joey Carbstrong + Paul Bashir, Coronavirus + Activism: https://youtu.be/3K7CORJWHEU

[We are working on the quality issues - especially on my (Roger's) side!]

Encouraging Vegan Education with Ronnie Lee

3/5/2020

The last (for now) of a series of short videos introducing a number of blog entries on Vegfest Express about the vegan movement pioneers.

This time, Ronnie Lee, vegan activist since 1972. When Ronnie Lee joined the Northampton hunt sabs in the 1970s, he quickly discovered that he was the only vegan in the group.

Ronnie learnt that it was much the same situation in the other groups that he had joined. "These organisations which campaigned against animal experimentation, against the fur trade, and against hunting - the people that ran these organisations were meat eaters. They’d hold up a placard in one hand...eating a chicken sandwich in the other."

THIS is the link to the original Vegfest Express article.

Macka B Talks Veganism on Karin Ridgers' House of Fun

2/23/2020

Karin Ridgers is a phenomenon. Single-handedly, she absolutely blows away the myth that vegans are dour and without a sense of humour. She's been vegan for 25 years, which is awesome in itself.

In this clip from her House of Fun radio show, Karin interviews the wonderful Macka B, also a vegan of 25 years. If you want to hear the entire show, click the link above - the Macka B section is on the player below.

This is Karin's show blurb about her guest: "the Grandfather of Reggae Macka B joins us for a chat too. Macka B tells us about his performances all over the world….. his famous fans including Beyonce’s mum and what he had to rush off for after performing to Nelson Mandela. Macka B’s original "Cucumber" rap has had over 44 million views and shared all over the world. Passionate vegan Macka B also shares what he puts in his daily smoothie!"

Brilliantly, she ends with Macka B's awesome track, "Never Played A 45" which really speaks to a certain generation. Karin talks about that experience - probably lost now - of going into a record store, buying some vinyl, looking at the disc on the bus back home, imagining what magic the tracks will reveal!

This clip ends with Karin playing Easy V's "Vegan Girlz."

Check it out!

AV Take An Axe To Veganism

2/20/2020

Among the numerous problems with Anonymous for the "Voiceless" (AV), they have a destructive reducetarian attitude towards veganism and are busy misleading their own members and supporters about what veganism is.

AV claimed in a Facebook post (17th February 2020) that they want to "come back to the roots" and "clarify the meaning" of veganism. However, AV have an "animals only" stance to veganism and have cherry-picked a single sentence from the extensive writings of vegan movement pioneer Leslie Cross claiming, bizarrely, that this sentence is the "original definition of veganism."

The line comes from the beginning of a Leslie Cross article in the International Vegetarian Union's World Forum (Spring 1951). AV fail to directly cite anything else from the article, probably because it would undermine their case.

In my view, an understanding of the writings of Leslie Cross totally obliterates AV's reducetarianism effort to neuter and limit the meaning of veganism. Cross frequently talked about the focus and the scope of veganism. AV wants to eliminate knowledge of the scope and restrict the full meaning of veganism to its focus alone. This is due to their politics which, ironically, is to claim to want to take politics out of the animal advocacy movement. They believe that human beings can set aside their politics, the effects of power relations and systems of oppression and, "for the animals," march alongside their oppressors. This a-political stance is both unrealistic and naive.

A central part of Cross' position is that veganism is part and parcel of the moral evolution of humanity. He essentially says this very thing in the World Forum article. We have to remember that the vegan movement was formed in 1944 in the latter years of a brutal global conflict. The vegans effectively declared peace amidst the horrors of war. Donald Watson lost many friends during the war, was lucky not to be killed himself, and said that people were utterly "shattered" by its effects.

For Leslie Cross, veganism would be the salvation of both human and nonhuman animals. In 1954, in a passionate essay entitled “The Surge of Freedom” Cross starts by saying: “This is an attempt to state in simple terms what veganism is and why and how it came into existence, and to suggest what it could mean for mankind.”*

Contrary to AV's restricted view of veganism, the pioneers of the vegan movement were very open about the fact that veganism includes the opposition to human oppression. For example, Eva Batt, in a 1960s pamphlet entitled "Why Veganism," writes states that veganism is a way of living that avoids the exploitation of humans, other animals, and even the soil while, in a comment in a 1945 edition of The Vegan, Donald Watson noted that the object of The Vegan Society was to "oppose the exploitation of sentient life." Sociologist Matthew Cole points out that, from 1948-51, the journal of The Vegan Society bore the strapline: "Advocating living without exploitation."

My sense is that, as the vegan social movement grows, people join who are not in tune with the left-leaning values of the movement. This is the real problem for AV, it doesn't like the original founding values of the vegan movement. However, as Steve Best stated in his "Total Liberation" keynote speech at the animal rights conference in Luxembourg, the animal movement is a left-wing movement. Now, there are some nuances to that statement, so I'd encourage readers to watch the video of the talk, which can be found here. Best reminds us of the values which the movement embraces: equality, democracy, inclusivity, non-discrimination, non-hierarchy, rights, justice, peace, and non-violence. He says that the values we oppose are right wing values of military, borders, hierarchy, family, nations, war, and security.

He says that our value heritage - whether we realise it or not - is from the left.

Social movement theory predicts this problem of clashing values in social movements, especially when they grow quickly and become more "mainstream." On "mainstream," see here from pattrice jones. Tom Regan would undoubtedly call it a "battle of ideas." But we should make no mistake that there is a battle of values currently going on in the animal advocacy movement.

Are we going to let these newbies come into the movement, reframe its values, and try to sell them back to us as its originals?

* People are products of their time and, of course, in the 1950s, sexist language was the norm.

Introducing Tom Regan! How Ridiculous is that?

2/10/2020

In the seventh of the blog series “And If You Know Your History...”, Dr. Roger Yates of the Vegan Information Project talks about the work of the late Prof. Tom Regan, philosopher and pioneer of rights-based animal rights. From the Vegfest Express blog (link below)... This is a celebration of the life and work of Tom Regan, author of the ground-breaking rights-based book, The Case for Animal Rights, in 1983, and the originator of abolitionist animal rights. However, I also take the opportunity provided by the writing of this blog entry to explore why the “animal rights movement” has rejected the philosophy of animal rights and opted to simply use the term “animal rights” as a label.

THIS is the original Vegfest Express blog entry.

THIS is Tom Regan's powerful statement on rights-based animal rights in which he declares the philosophy of the "animal rights" movement morally bankrupt.

AUDIO: Our First Vegan Interview of 2020

1/20/2020

Along with Jennifer Faust of jenniferfaustart, I was interviewed recently on LMFM Radio by Garry Kelly on his Late Lunch show.

A wide-ranging interview covering topics including -

* I told You So
* Corporations Cashing In
* Ethics Vegan Pioneers - Optimism
* Veganuary
* Farmers
* Farming Subsidies
* More Farmers in a Vegan World
* The Length of Transition
* Go Vegan World
* Rights Violations
* Why Jennifer Went Vegan
* Cold Turkey
* Did You Miss "Meat"?
* Vegan Meats
* Vegan Milks
* Supplements
* Friends and Family
* Vegan Christmas
* Live Tasting and Evaluation of a Vegan Sausage Roll from the Bakewell/Applegreen
* Is Veganism Still a Utopian Idea
* VIP's Animal Rights Focus
* Hunter-Gatherers -v- Foragers
* Ramming Veganism Down People's Throat

ENJOY!

Arthur Ling, the Plant Milk King!

1/20/2020

“The Plamil King”
And vegan pioneer
We raise a glass
To toast your class
We’re lucky you stopped here
Please take a bow
From every cow
Whose life you helped to save
And one from Every vegan
On the road you helped to pave

- Bernie Laprade

Dr. Roger Yates of the Vegan Information Project talks about Arthur Ling, one of the original vegan pioneers, most well-known for his work at Plamil Foods Ltd.

CLICK HERE for the original Vegfest Express blog entry.

AUDIO: In the House of Fun with Karin Ridgers

1/15/2020

Karin Ridgers of VeggieVision TV plays Cosmic Dancer for me on her wonderful House of Fun Show before it all goes wrong with Tim Barford, manager of VegfestUK and Plant-Powered Expo, with his new fangled "modern" music (not included for reasons of taste).
Click HERE for Karin's special iconic bands show in full.

The Remarkable Kathleen Jannaway - Vegan Movement Pioneer

1/7/2020

In the 5th of the series, I turn attention to a remarkable vegan movement pioneer, Kathleen Jannaway, of the Vegan Society and then the Movement for Compassionate Living.

Enjoy!

Let's Rage Together Podcast Exposes Yourofsky's Violent Hatred of Humanity.

12/20/2019

Happily it seems that the influence on the animal advocacy movement of the now "retired" Gary Yourofsky is diminishing. I believe that historians of the animal movement will mark Yourofsky's time in the movement as ultimately a damaging one. I also argue that there is little evidence that he really understood foundational vegan values resulting in numbers of politically shallow right-wing "vegans for the animals" entering the modern animal advocacy movement.

Problematic organisations like Anonymous for the Voiceless appear still to promote this violent individual which is perhaps not surprising. Of course, the most problematic of all organisations in the animal movement, PeTA, are responsible for putting Yourofsky on the map in the first place, so to speak, by funding him in the early days.

The excellent Let's Rage Together Podcast collated many of Yourofsky's most violent outbursts which you can hear below. Naturally, there's a huge content warning for potential listeners to consider before they engage. Yourofsky hates humanity, including himself apparently, but some seem more hated than others, for example, Palestinians. He also appears to have an unhealthy obsession with rape fantasies, as you'll hear from the clips Let's Rage Together put together. The Let's Rage Together team also present an impressive critical analysis of Yourofsky's violence in Podcast 11 which can be heard in full by clicking the podcast link above.

One defence often put forward, particularly about Yourofsky's "wish" that fur-wearers are viciously raped to the point that they are scared for life, see HERE, is that the comments were made long ago. That is true but he never retracted them and explicitly refused to do so when I asked him to as part of the ARZone team - see HERE.

I often say "enjoy" the audio materials I post - but absolutely not on this occasion.